Vans RV10 Comparison

 

Thinking of buying a Vans RV10?

But want more room? to go faster? To pay less money? to burn less fuel? To have less maintenance?
think Cirrus Sr22T size and speeds

190 ktas @ 12 GPH at 12,000 ft

$237k all in fly away price equipped same as Vans RV10 ($350k for their builder assist price)

Veloce 400 quick build 800 hour kit – all in your build price $150k – Vs. Vans is $200k+

Veloce 400 at 9 GPH – and 8000 ft – doing 165 ktas

AV maintenance schedule – oil changes every 100 hours – change rubber at 1,000 hours – overhaul for $5k at 2,000 hours.

Lycoming maintenance schedule – way to much to list here.

 

Company Veloce 400 – 210 HP Lyc Veloce 400 – 300 HP AV Vans RV10
Website www.veloceplanes.com www.veloceplanes.com www.vansaircraft.com
Plane 4 place  210hp 4 place 300hp Turbo RV10 – 4 place
Price KIT $54,700 (engine avionics not included) $54,700 63k – slow build
Total
Price		 $160,000 (engine and avionics included) $150,000 – (engine and avionics included) $170K- $199K – (engine and avionics included)
Hours to
build		 800-1,000 hours (9 months for delivery) 800-1000 hours (9 months for delivery) 1200-2500 hours (2 years to deliver)
Engine 210 HP
Lycoming IO390 –		 AV 300hp 260 HP lycoming
Cruise Cruise (75%@8000ft) 160 ktas Cruise (55% @8000™) 145 mph 75% @ 8,000 – 190 KTAS @ 15 GPH
Cruise (65% @ 8000ft) – 180 KTAS – 12 GPH
Cruise (45% @ 8000’) – 165 KTAS – 9 GPH
35% power – 142 KTAS @ 8,000 – 6 GPH
65% power – 203 KTAS @ 18,000 ft – 12 GPH

 

 180 ktas @ 8,000 on 17 GPH

155 ktas @ 8,000 on 12 GPH
Range 800 NM – 1200 NM 1400 NM 1000 nm
Take
Off		 1148 ft – 1640ft –
over 50 ft obstacle		 850 ft 600 ft
Landing 1476 ft – over 50 ft 850 ft 650 ft
Stall speed 67 mph 60 ktas 58 ktas
Empty
weight		 1480  lbs 1480  lbs 1,630 lbs
Max
weight		 2633 2766 2,701
Useful
load		 1135  lbs 1286 lbs 1,051 lbs

Click on the Video Below to watch the webinar on this 4 place plane

Capacity / Passengers

4 places – or 5 with 3 small people in back; only 4 people in RV-10

 

Powerplant Specifications

Maximum Power 210hp IO 390 Lycoming 300hp – AV – Veloce 400 Lycoming 540
Horsepower 210hp 300hp 260 HP
Maximum RPM 2700 7000 2700 RPM
Propeller Constant speed Fixed Pitch (saves $15k and 50 lbs) Constant

 

WEIGHT

Aircraft weights

Plane IO 390 – V 400 AV 300 HP – V 400 Vans RV10
Empty 670kg 670kg kg
Empty weight 1480 lbs 1480 lbs 1630 lbs
Maximum weight 1185 kg 1255 kg  kg
Maximum weight 2633 lbs 2766 lbs 2701 lbs
Tank capacity 302 liters 302 liters  liters
Fuel capacity 80 gal. 80 gal. 60 gal.
Luggage compartment capacity 40 kg 40 kg  kg
Baggage (28 x 18 door) 88 lbs 88 lbs 100 lbs
USEFUL LOAD 1153 lbs 1286 lbs 1051 lbs

Aircraft measurements

Aircraft Veloce 400 Vans RV10
Cabin height 48″ (1220 mm)
Cabin width 46″ (1168 mm) 48″
Shoulder room 46″ (1168 mm) 48″
Room above seat for head height 38″ (965 mm) (same as cirrus) 39″
Tail Width 122 inches 122 inches
Wing span 29.2 ft (7468 mm) 31.5 Ft
Length 29.2 ft (7468 mm) 24.5 Ft
Height 7.25 ft (2210 mm) 8 ft 8 inches

 

PERFORMANCE

Planes V 400 – 210 HP V 400 – 300 HP Vans RV10
Never exceeded speed (indicated) 195 knot Indicated 195 knot Indicated 195 ktas
Cruising speed 268 km/h 314 km/h 180 ktas @ 17 GPH
Cruise speed
(sea level)		 150 knot @ 10 gph 170 knot @ 12 GPH
140 ktas @ 9 GPH		 155 ktas @ 16 GPH
Cruise speed
(18,000 Ft)		 130 knot @ 10 gph 203 knot @ 12 GPH
212 Ktas @ 15 GPH		 160 ktas @ 12 GPH
Stol speed 111 km/h 111 km/h 58 ktas
Stall speed 60 knot 60 knot 58 ktas
Ascent rate
rate of climb		 1000 fpm 1200 fpm 1450 fpm

 

OPTIONS

Accessory

VELOCE

Ballistic Parachute – $40k
Deice and Heated Prop – $5k to $45k (if just wing is heated with engine $5k – if wing and tail with different deice – $20k – and if all sound vibration de-ice – $45k)
Electric AC – $10,000

 VELOCE

IFR Instrumentation standard
Factory quick build assist  standard
Garmin dual screen G3x, auto pilot, dual comm dual radio adbsin/out – GPS 175 standard

 Vans RV10

IFR Instrumentation standard
Factory quick build assist  $150k+ more

Gramin Glass Panel Standard
A small white plane flying in the sky.
A small white plane flying over the top of a field.
A small white plane flying over the grass.
A small white plane flying over the water.
A small white plane flying over water near a bridge.
A small white plane flying in the sky.
A small white plane flying over the ground.
A small white plane flying over the grass.
A small white plane flying over the water.
A small plane flying over the ocean at sunset.
A small white plane flying in the sky.
A small white plane flying over the top of a field.
A small airplane flying in the air at sunset.
A small plane flying in the air at sunset.
A small airplane flying in the air at sunset.
A small airplane sitting on top of an airport runway.
A small airplane sitting on top of an airport runway.
A view of the cockpit of an airplane.
A view of the cockpit of an airplane with two monitors.
A seat in the back of an airplane.
A view of the seats in an airplane.

 

Compare

Company Veloce 400 Veloce 400 Van’s
aircraft		 Van’s
aircraft		 Sling Revolution
Aviation		 Cirrus Evolution
Website www.veloceplanes.com www.veloceplanes.com www.vansaircraft.com www.vansaircraft.com www.airplanefactory.com/aircraft/sling-tsi/ http://www.evolutionaviation.net/ https://cirrusaircraft.com http://www.evolutionaircraft.com
Plane 400 – 210hp 400 – 300hp Turbo RV-10
2200 lbs		 RV-10
2700 lbs		 TSI sling RAI-6
Foxtrot		 Cirrus
SR20		 Evolution
Piston
Price KIT $54,700 $54,700 $49,710-
$63,250
Total
Price		 $160,000 $150,000 $170K-
$200K		 $170K-
$200K		 $163K-
$191K		 $167K $494,900 1M
Time to
build		 800-1,000
hours		 800-1000 1200-2000 1200-2000 900 0 200
Engine 210 HP
Lycoming IO390 –		 AV 300hp 235 – 260 HP 236 – 260 HP Rotax 915iS Turbo Charged FADEC 141 HP Lycoming IO-540 300 Lycoming IO-390-C3B6 215HP YTEO-540-iE2 350 hp
Cruise Cruise (75% @ 8000ft 210HP -160mph; Cruise (55% @8000’) 210HP- 145 mph; Cruise (75% @ 8000ft, 210HP – 160 mph; Cruise (55% @ 8000’) 210HP – 145 mph) Cruise (65% @ 8000ft – 200 mph; Cruise (55% @ 8000’)
65% power – 203 KTS @ 18,000 ft		 Cruise (75% @ 8000ft, 235HP – 190 mph; 260HP – 197 mph); Cruise (55% @ 8000’) 235HP – 170 mph; 260HP – 176 mph 155+ ktas 174 KTAS Max Cruise 155ktas; Cruise @8000ft 145kts; Max Cruise (max @ 24,000) 230 KTAS; Economy Cruise 215 KTAS
Range 800 NM – 1200 NM 1400 NM 600 NM 1000 NM 800 nm 2,000 nm 1380 NM
Take
Off		 1148 ft – 1640ft – over 50 ft obstacle 850 ft 360-415 500-583 875 ft 1,685 ft 1450 ft
Landing 1476 ft – over 50 ft 850 ft 500-525 650 800 ft Landing Groundroll 853 ft Min Ldg Distance 1650 ft
Stall speed 67 mph 67 mph 57 mph 63 mph 58 kts 57 kts 61 KTS
Empty
weight		 1480  lbs 1480  lbs 1580 – 1630 lbs 1581 – 1630 lbs 1,080 lbs 1,900 lbs 2122 lbs 2650 lbs
Max
weight		 2633 2766 2700 2701 2,095 3,500 $nbsp; 4550
Useful
load		 1135  lbs 1286 lbs 1050 lbs 1051 lbs 1,015 lbs 1,600 lbs 1,028lbs Payload (up to)720 lbs
Veloce 400 Walk Around Video

IO-540 on 400 plane

IO-540 on 400 plane 2

Here is the Veloce 400 flying with an IO-540 – does 170 kts at 55%.
you can put a turbo IO-540 engine on – and get over 200 KTS.

Your Choices

We recommend this install package if you want certified IFR

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/577174 – certified GPS and ADBS in and out with weather

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/512307/pn/010-01471-01 – radio with comms

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/140494 – back up radio

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/600047/pn/010-01946-00 – auto pilot head, https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/607047 – auto pilot – for 2 servos.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/107443 – engine indication

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/166058 – 2 displays

 

If you don’t want Certified IFR – you can drop the $8k GNS 375 – and simply get ADS-B for $1–3k (depends if you want in/out or just out).

If you don’t want backup radio – can drop $1k.

If you don’t want two AHRS/displays – can drop $4k for one display.

 

If you want any other avionics package, you can sure get that.

Dynon, GRT, MGL, Avidyne, or any other.

 

Interiors: We offer leather interior standard – one color.

If you want 2 colors or colored stitching or carbon fiber panel, or something like that will be additional.

 

Paint scheme – we offer one full color base with some basic colored striping (vinyl or paint).

If you want extra, will be extra depending on amount of complexity.

 

Choices of Engines

We recommend Aeromomentum Engines – as price to HP to quality – nothing beats them in our opinion.

But you can do any engine you want.

Aerovolare.com

Other engines that work well

400 4 seater

Tio or IO 360, and IO 390, TIO 540, IO 540, TIO 520, IO 520.

UL

 

600 6 seater

TWIN:

TIO 520 or 550 – IO 520 or 550
TIO 360 – rebuilt from ac-aero.com

 

Websites

www.Veloceplanes.com – our website

www.vevazz.com – my company  for 11 years with 2 FDA clearances – UPDATE – just sold it Dec 2021 – Yeah.